Maple Leafs fans, without question, are loyal and long
suffering. Oh, I’m sure most Leaf
supporters have become tremendously frustrated at various junctures along the
way over the past decade (over the past 45+ years, for that matter), but that’s
the reality of being a sports fan. If your team doesn’t win a championship at
the end of the season, the goal was not accomplished and you have to go back at
it next year.
But it’s hard to imagine there are more dedicated fans in
any sport of any team anywhere else on the planet. Leaf supporters of my generation have been devoted to following the franchise for decades, without a championship to show for it since 1967. We've watched and cheered for many great players like Sittler, McDonald, Salming, Gilmour, Clark (right) and Sundin but fans born after the mid '60s haven't experienced what winning a Stanley Cup feels like.
I’m always shocked at how many Leaf fans visit the VLM site from so many countries around the world. Leafers are just about everywhere we can imagine. We complain and criticize, sure, but if the Leafs win three games in a row—or goodness knows, make the playoffs—the passion is quickly rekindled and there for all to see.
So as the calendar turns to summer and the NHL finals are (finally)
about to get underway this week, there will be only two teams left that started this journey
back in September. And really the journey started well before that, because the
annual draft, free-agency and the constant reality of re-stocking a team
through your farm system means it’s a never ending process. The Leafs, of course, are not one of those two
remaining teams. In fact, the blue and white did not make the spring dance,
which would seem to suggest, on the surface, that they are a long way from
being in championship contention.
But we also know that things can change in a hurry, and that
last year’s also-rans can suddenly find themselves in the mix next season and
as has been said before—once you get to the playoffs, who knows what can
happen? Did anyone really expect, a year ago, the Rangers (who fired their
coach at the end of the 2012-’13 season) would be in the finals, with a chance
to win the Stanley Cup this spring?
The Leafs almost experienced that Cindarella turnaround a
year ago when they very nearly upset the Bruins in 7 games—as the Canadiens
actually did a couple of weeks ago. There were times this past season that it
looked like the Leafs had built on their short playoff experience against a
really good opponent and were in fact poised to make a run in the Eastern
Conference. Oh, we all saw that they
were often outplayed and out-chanced, but they were winning games.
They struggled at the end, however, and that negated a lot
of the hopeful fan sentiment that had been built up at certain points during
the season.
But here’s the question: having watched these playoffs and and seeing what it takes to get where the Rangers are, for example, how far are the Leafs
away?
We know they have a bona fide number-one goaltender in
Bernier. He’s not had a chance to show he can lead a team well into the
playoffs, but that’s not on him. He was
backing up Quick in LA and the Leafs fell out of the payoff hunt when Bernier
was hurt this past season. I believe the Leafs have a top goalie in place.
On the blueline, we have a minute-eating defenseman in
Phaneuf. He may not be everyone’s idea of a true shutdown defenseman but he can
play and is a valuable guy. Beyond the captain, the Leafs employ two of the
most entertaining and offensively talented rearguards in the game in Gardiner
and Rielly. They have serviceable
defenders like Gunnarsson and Franson as well, along with up and coming
youngsters like Granberg and Finn, among others.
Up front, they have real talent (as all teams do, of course)
on their first two lines, with Kessel, van Riemsdyk, Kadri and Lupul as the
skill centerpieces. We don’t know if Bolland will be back, but on paper,
Bolland and Clarkson should be ideal third-line contributors. But hockey reality—as in things don’t always
go as planned, including injuries—reminds us that the Leafs need depth on
the third and fourth lines, and probably still need one more true front-line
forward as well.
Our third and fourth lines were not what they needed to be
this past season. That could be the roster (Nonis) or it might have been roster
deployment (Carlyle). Leaf fans know
that there are plenty of youngsters who are in the system and poised to assume
bottom-six roles on the team. Ashton,
D’Amigo, Holland (he may have a higher ceiling, but I don’t think we really
know yet) are some of the already familiar names that could take on a more
prominent role in the years ahead.
Some hockey observers (experts?) don't rank the Leaf prospects
that highly. Others are positive about
what is in the pipeline. It does appear
that there are likely no true break-out stars on the horizon in the system other
than Rielly, who is already here. That said, young players sometimes surprise
the brass—and fans—because they emerge over time and show above and beyond
their earlier ‘projections’. A couple of the young Leaf defensemen may fall in
that category, but only time will tell.
Here’s the reality:
there is a fairly solid core here—most objective observers would
acknowledge that. But virtually every
non-playoff team has a handful of really good players, including some really
good young players. To get to the playoffs every year and to make noise once
you get there, you need all the things we’ve talked about here for years: skill, chemistry, coaching, goaltending and
yes, the requisite willingness to do the little things that make teams
successful. That includes being willing
to fight for the puck all over the ice, from the face-off dot to the front of
the net. It includes being willing to take a hit to make a play. It certainly includes knowing the difference
between “protecting” a teammate and taking bad penalties. It can mean blocking
shots, getting off the ice before you’re exhausted and countless other little
things like paying heed to the coaching staff’s instructions—whether you agree
with the “system” employed or not.
You also need at least a smattering of winning playoff
experience on the roster, character and yes, leadership. And I don’t mean leadership from just one
guy. Good teams have a lot of leaders,
who set an example in a host of ways.
After watching the playoffs and what good teams look like, are
they truly a bottom-tier team or are they closer than we think?
Champions are won by strength down the middle!! Leafs best pivot was Chicago's 3rd liner, Buds a long way away!!
ReplyDeleteI wrote here about that very subject not that long ago, Anon. It's true- contending teams need strength at centre.
DeleteI generally agree with your thoughts on Phaneuf (as expressed here and elsewhere), but there's just something not right with the defence as a group. Goaltending wasn't a problem before they brought in Bernier and it certainly isn't now. Scoring isn't really an issue either, especially with respect to the top line. It's probably time to put to rest the argument that Bozak is not a number one centre. Most players he is compared to are the primary scorer on their team's top line. The Leafs primary scorer is the winger.
ReplyDeleteI'm not one for blaming the coach when the players are the ones who are under performing, but when you look at the level of talent on the roster the Leafs seem to be a better team than what they showed us last season. I knew there was no reason to take seriously the rumours that Babcock could have been pried away from Detroit, but I was thinking at the time that if it could somehow happen the Leafs would be a playoff team next year. Those reflections made me realize that although getting rid of Carlyle would not have come close to guaranteeing a parade on Yonge Street 12 and a half months from now, it probably would have been a significant step in the right direction.
Your comment that there's something just not right wit the defense group may be applicable to the team overall, Oliver. The mix of the defense is somehow off, there's something missing up front and the fit between Carlyle and this roster is perhaps not what it should be.
DeleteI believe the Leafs are very close and they will definitely surprise a lot of people next season. There is no point in rehashing how they missed this year but the fact is they were 3 points ahead of the Habs and cruising towards home ice advantage in the playoffs when Bernier was injured. That alone should say something. Bill Parcells said "You are what your record says you are " so my take on that is the Leafs record is what it was with Bernier - and it is what it was with Reimer.
ReplyDeleteI am pretty positive on most of the players and agree they have a pretty solid core. So this coming year you have to expect Rielly and Gardiner to keep improving. Players like Kadri and JVR are still pretty young and Kessel should be just entering his prime which means another six or more good years. Kadri is only 23 and managed 20 goals last season and everyone knows he has tons of skill and is a playmaker. So maybe he gets 25 goals this season which is the same as Paul Stastny. Bozak had 19 goals in 58 games so that would have been 27 over a full season. So the Leafs are not as weak at center as some people seem to believe.
They will be getting three new assistant coaches and Nonis has already indicated players on the Marlies will be given a chance next year. There probably will be a lot of changes in the system they play. They do have a lot or prospects but a few of them might still be a few years away. Gauthier is a big center that is really strong defensively and will be difficult to play against.
The most positive thing is they actually have prospects in the system and some of them will play in the NHL and this is something the Leafs have not had for at least twenty years. When Brian Burke took over in 2008 the Leafs really had nothing coming up so Burke couldn't even make trades because he had nothing to deal with so he really started a rebuild from scratch. Now they do have some pretty promising players to look forward to. They also have the 8th overall pick which is a lot better than another veteran on the down side of their career.
So I really expect them to be better next year which means they finish ahead of the Habs and Tampa and maybe give the Bruins a run for 1st place. With the core they have now and given the youth on the team they should keep improving and could have a legitimate shot at the Cup in a few years.
The Leafs can be looked at as glass half full or half empty, Alton. They do have some young talent that should only get better.
DeleteEvery year we hear the same story. The Leafs will take a look at the Marlie roster and invite the top players to camp - but in the end it's always "Who's spot are they going to take?"
DeleteI can name 4 or more players who should be in the NHL right now. Better to trade them then let them rot in the minors. Even then, Nonis has to insist that Carlyle use those players...think Holland as an example
I agree the Leafs have a good young core. I also agree their biggest issues are with defence, and not just defence but all five skaters. To be more precise it is the ability of the team to gain possession of the puck, and exit the zone effectively. There is nothing more tiring for the players than to be pinned in your zone for extended periods of time. I have always liked Carlyle as a player and a coach but I am starting to wonder if it isn't a system flaw, especially when you see the Marlies having the same issues.
ReplyDeleteI'm with you, Stan- defense is a team thing. That means the system, yes, but also all five guys on the ice working well together. You see that harmony with the good teams who are well coached and have a roster full of players who follow the plan.
DeleteMichael,
ReplyDeleteYou are spot on as always. For the Maple Leafs it is the offseason, I do hope they are trying to improve, instead of patting each other on the back while counting the money. This is really a glass half full, vs half empty proposition.
Every team that didn't get to play playoff hockey thinks they are on the right path to the promised land. Everyone who runs a team got there for a reason, they do know some things. They try to get better, even the Islanders have locked up a proven goaltender for the next four years.
As fans, we always seem to give too much credit to the team we follow, and the players that are on it. We cheer for them, I get it, but the constant refrain of this guy will improve, surely this guy will build on last year, is tiring. Most of the Maple Leafs have proven to me that they are what they are, a twelfth place hockey team. No more than that, no less. It is my assumption that they finish next season right about the same place they did this one.
There are many reasons for my decided lack of optimism. They brought back a head coach that I have literally no faith in, zero. Changing his assistants was optics, plain and simple. I am still waiting for any argument that Randy is a good coach, and waiting. I don't think there is one to be made for keeping him around, but there he is. Am I really destined to watch Colton Orr play more hockey, at the expense of younger, cheaper, better players, like Chicago and LA give ice time to?
You mentioned it above, Kessel is the teams best player, is in his prime, and honestly, unlikely to get better. No one can really be sure whether or not Kadri, Gardiner, and Rielly will continue to improve, stay the same, or regress. We all hope that they will grow by leaps and bounds, but that is hope, not reason. I think this team has some decent pieces, so does every other team in the NHL. I don't feel as though the Leafs 6 best players compare favourably against the rest of the League.
Do our pieces, as they stand today, stack up against Chicago, Boston, LA, San Jose, St. Louis, Anaheim, Pittsburgh? Those are the teams I want the Leafs to compete with, beating Columbus, Ottawa and the Islanders to make the playoffs seems like just such a waste. A non competition, competition, if you get my meaning.
I have stated from the time the trade was made that I thought it was the wrong direction for the franchise. Getting Bernier leaves us with other more important areas un-addressed. Even though I like his skills as a goaltender, he hasn't proven to be able to play 60 games a year while leading a team to the playoffs season after season. He may one day, he may not, time will tell. Not only that, it really hindered the value the team built in Reimer.
I shall end on a positive note. It is my fervent wish that the team does not re sign Dave Bolland. Management needs to go a new direction, away from the garbage other teams have left by the side of the road for disposal. Develop some players Maple Leafs, I implore you. The fact that the Hockey News ranks your organization 29th prospect wise, should be motivation enough, if you can look away from the money.
I always appreciate your posts here, Jim, because they reflect the views of someone that has followed the franchise closely for many years, cares a great deal but also looks at things realistically. You know that I often say here: "every other team has good players" and "good young players", because it is true. The Leafs have prospects, and some may become good players. But virtually all teams do- and have the same aspirations as the Leafs.
DeleteI'm with you- let's develop players here. I mean really develop them and then we can enjoy watching a team that was largely home-built.
The defence is missing a piece and as a consequence players are forced above their heads. Phaneuf if is a great #2 but ultimately not a #1 and it shows at times. Leafs need a true #1 center or they will not contend, the last decade is very clear on how the team has done without one.
ReplyDeleteYeah, but the Rangers do not have a number one Center too. And they are contending
DeleteI am on the less optimistic side. Watching the depth, skill and exhibited commitment of LA and Chicago is deflating..
The brightest light I see is the defense core. Reilly and Gardiner are young , skilled and already contributing. Let's hope that Reilly can evolve in a Doughty type guy as we have no true shut down d-man. Percy, Finn and Granberg all look as though they could very well grow into solid contributors. So we have five fine young prospects with complimentary skill sets in the organization. A top shelf young goalie as well. That is a strong base for being a contender.
That said we are a few years away from seeing all five playing for the big club with the level of experience and maturity needed to excel consistently. With regard to our current set of d-men, outside of Jake and Morgan, who are still young and make all the requisite mistakes of players their age, our present core are all being asked to do more than they are capable of. Not sure if it is poor coaching, players not being able/willing to listen or simply a talent problem but in their own end the Leaf's defense seem permanently stuck in 'let's self-combust mode' . We are not going far with the current back end configuration. One is a hearty fool to believe a coaching change will make the current back end that of a legit contender. Keep in mind our clock chewing tough match up defenseman is 30 next season. Dion does not strike me as the type of player whose speed will hold up as he ages. If he loses even a modest bit of foot speed he is no longer a top pairing defender. That is maybe just a couple of years from happening.
I do not see enough skill and leadership depth up front. Much like the defense we have a few very good young players, in Phil one of the best at his position period! I give high marks to Phil for leadership. He is out there every shift, plays hard every game, cares a lot and NEVER sits out a contest.
Still, did you watch the Kings/Hawks? Their fourth line players left me so discouraged. The gap between us and them is huge. Regarding our quality , experienced forwards, aging $5mm++ players like Clarkson and Lupol aren't the way forward. Kadri will be a good maybe very good number 2 centre for a number of years. Next year Bozak season 29 and still searches for his first 50 point year. Let's not pretend we have many workable parts down the middle , though I do like a lot about Holland.
I believe that the future strengths of the defense will be enough to get by with a rather pedestrian group of forwards. Kessel, JVR, Naz and perhaps a couple of other offensively skilled front liners combined with strong skating , committed bottom six guys might be enough to put us amongst the top six . Unfortunately, we seem to be 3-4 years away from that.
Great post, Bmaximus. I think you've covered the good and not so good aspects of where the Leafs are at.
DeleteYes, it is a reality check to watch the teams who are in the "final four" and to see how hard they play and the skill and grit they can send over the boards on every shift. That said, I've felt that way for many years. There just is a difference between those truly top-tier teams who have the depth on not only the top but bottom lines to compete at the highest level at playoff time.
Hi Michael. I am usually an optimistic person. I thought the Leafs took a step forward in 2012/13 and were finally moving in the right direction.
ReplyDeleteThis season the richest cap team in the league could barely afford to use a full roster, left players like Liles in the AHL, and had no cap space for any type of improvements. Management patted themselves on the back for signing RFA's like Franson and UFA's (Raymond) for next to nothing when these players actually had little choice.
The only move that might have made a difference during the season was a 3rd pick for Holland. I was impressed the first time he played, Carlyle thought he was "okay" and moved him down the lineup and finally to the Marlies. He was brought up occasionally to sit on the bench to turn the pick into a 2nd.
In spite of much cheaper talent on the farm team, these players were used sparingly in minor roles when injuries occurred and most were not in a position to show us anything.
In spite of Carlyle stating that players needed to be used in a way that gave them the best chance to succeed only a handful were given that chance.(Bernier, Clarkson, maybe Bodie) Our best players, our core group--Phaneuf, Kessel, JVR, Kadri, Lupul --do not have partners and line-mates that help them achieve. I can't blame players for failing to achieve above their abilities, but I won't blame our best players for not achieving to the fullest when these players are their line-mates.
Phaneuf, whose strength is offense, was used in a defense role that exhausted him physically and mentally and smothered his offensive abilities. Dion doesn't need to be moved, he needs some help.
Lupul and Kadri had little chance of success with Clarkson on their line, but giving him a chance seemed more important then giving them one. I thought Holland on this line with Kadri on the wing would have given this line new energy.
After seeing what Kessel could do with Backes and other centers during the Olympic's, I'm rethinking my opinion of Bozak on the 1st line. I'm not knocking Bozak or the huge amount of minutes he plays. Personally I like him and appreciate what he can do. His cap hit, however, though not overly high, keeps him on the 1st line indefinitely. I think Kessel can be better in every area with the right center.
I'd like Bolland and Komorov but can the Leafs keep doing these deals for the bottom six while completely ignoring the top lines? This seems backwards to me. Improving the 1st line so other good players move down a line seems a better way to me to improve all lines eventually. I don't understand the thinking here. It's like they are building a flimsy wooden tower, balancing their few best blocks precariously on top and hoping they can somehow hold the whole thing up.
I'm afraid it's "half empty" for me. CN
You raise a lot of good points as always, Colleen. The foundation (at least part of it) is already here, but the foundation needs additional support. As others have mentioned here, you can see the difference in the third and fourth lines on the really good teams. Two more top-line forwards would move the depth chart, for sure.
DeleteAt the start of the year, I said the Leafs were a glass half full/half empty kind of team, and it looks like we still are! After watching the playoffs so far, I don't think we're close to making a significant playoff run at all. We're close to floundering into one of the bottom positions because some other team blows it (the flipside of this year). We don't even have a fourth line, for crying out loud.
ReplyDeleteThere are too many problems built into the Leafs at the moment to allow any real optimism for next year, in my opinion. Of course trades may happen - and for some reason I'm expecting a somewhat shocking one - but I don't think we can do enough to turn the tide of playoff futility and approach the high-water level of this year's Final Four teams.
I understand your view, Gerund O'. Some see the Leafs as being on the cusp of success, others see the same picture quite differently. Though earlier this season I thought the Leafs could challenge in the East, we have a ways to go to catch the top teams- I think we can all agree on that.
DeleteIf Randy Carlyle coaches the team the same way he coached them last year this team is on the cusp of playing like and ending up exactly where they did last year. A poor finish in the weakest conference.
ReplyDeleteThere are plenty of questions, Pep. Will the roster look the same? Will Carlyle have the same approach- to individual players and the team's style of play? Is the core good enough to contend, with help?
DeleteHi Michael,
ReplyDeletefirst of all they have to play more like they did last season. They need more commitment and they must be a lot harder to play against .
How far are they away? Away from what?
From being an every year contender? To be comparable to Boston, Chicago, LA? Miles away!
But that is only one thing. We are playing in the east. The east is Boston, the only a regular season team Pittsburg Pens and then there is a bulk of ca. 10 teams that contend for the last 6 playoff spotts.
The Leafs are one of these teams. And they are not so far away from being a regular, every year, playoff team. And that must be the goal. When you make the Playoffs everything can happen look at New York. But the Rangers won't be there next year. But Chicago and LA will be ffor the next 5 years.
If the Leafs trade away Phaneuf, the are further away. We need to make our D better and not weaken it by trading the best away.
The thing with No. 1 centerman is that there are only 20 in a 30 team league ( according to Craig Button there are only 15). So stop dreaming about the number one center.
Nonis needs to put a roster together that has 4 lines that can play and contribute. And Randy has to play them.
Hi Marcus- I certainly agree that we need to have (and play) four lines. I've written about that here quite a bit. I also agree that the East is usually up for grabs, and even the Bruins may begin to slip before long.
DeleteIt seemed as though the Leafs were harder to play against in 2012-'13. This past season something shifted and while they were able to outscore the opposition through much of the season, they were missing something.
The latest rumour is Phaneuf, Kadri, and the 8th pick to Florida for the 1st and Jovanoski, who will likely just retire. I can't believe they would even consider this. If it involves taking back some of Dion's salary, it's even worse. There was mention of some old veteran Dmen the Leafs could grab for cheap. What are your thoughts, Michael? CN
ReplyDeleteI'm certainly not an expert (or even close) when it comes to the junior prospect world, Colleen. That said, if a team is willing to trade away the first overall pick, they clearly don't project that player as a future Crosby, etc. We know Tallon needs help right away, as they already have a number of emerging youngsters in Florida.
DeleteIf this is being driven by Shanahan, I may have more trust than if Carlyle is pushing for this. It would create cap space (Dion's contract) but would also seemingly set back the team's progress in the short term.