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Reimer after the World Championships: if not the Leafs, where?

I admit I've kept one eye on the World Hockey Championships just concluded in Belarus because of the Maple Leaf connection that included Nazem Kadri, Morgan Rielly and James Reimer (Canada) and Jake Gardiner on the U.S. squad.  I also monitored, though not as closely as I would have liked, the progress of longtime Leaf forward Nikolai Kulemin of the Russian side. I further admit that I was mildly aware of how ex-Leaf agitator Leo Komarov was doing while helping Finland to the Gold medal game. (The home Belarussian side, with former Leaf Mikhail Grabovski on board, hung in very well throughout the event; he concluded the event a plus 4 with 8 points in 6 games in front of tremendously supportive fans in Minsk…)

Canada probably deserved a better fate but lost in the quarter-final round against Finland, so we really did not get to see ‘our’ guys in action in many meaningful encounters.  Kadri was a plus 2 in 7 games, making a modest offensive contribution with 3 assists.  But given that the Canadian forwards had never played together before and were playing on a large ice surface, I’m not sure I expected anything more from the cagey 23 year-old Leaf pivot.  That he suited up for Canada had to be a good experience in itself, regardless of outcome.

I saw enough of Morgan Rielly this past NHL season that I was not remotely concerned about what he did at the World Championships. I just enjoy watching him play. (He was one of the few Leafs on my “must keep” list at the end of the season.) For the record, he was a plus 3 with 3 points in the tournament.

Gardiner’s U.S. side, made up mostly of good but still second-tier NHL’ers (like the Canadian squad, many of the elite guys were still in the playoffs, or had been in the Olympics and declined an invite), also exited the tournament early, so we didn't get to see Jake in any high-level medal games.  But he finished the tournament a plus 2 in 8 games, with 4 points in total. Like Kadri, the 23 year-old Gardiner can only be better for these kinds of international experiences.

As those following the tournament well know, Kulemin and Komarov met in the Gold medal matchup. Kulemin played in all 10 games for his National team, netting 7 points, including an assist on the clinching Russian goal in the Gold medal game.  For his part, Komarov (might he still sign with the Leafs, I wonder?) played his usual tenacious game, with 3 points in 10 games as the Fins earned a silver medal.

But I guess the real question I had—and a central reason I was trying to follow the tournament—is this: where “is” James Reimer these days? More than a month after the Leafs finished their year with a whimper, with Reimer having struggled down the stretch when Jonathan Bernier was injured, I was keen to know if he would be looking to “prove” something.  (These proud, competitive individuals will rarely admit that sort of thing.)

From what I saw and as best I could tell, Reimer played pretty well in the games he started.  His basic stats were hardly startling.  His goals against average was 2.20 with a save percentage just above .910 but I thought he generally played well, albeit in a relatively small sample size against middlish opposition.

I was interested to see who Canadian head coach Dave Tippett would chose to start the elimination game against Finland—and it turned out that he went with another former Leaf, Ben Scrivens.  The decision seemed to reinforce the kind of year it had been for Reimer: when he was good, he wasn’t quite good enough.  And at the end of the day, the coaching staff did not have the confidence in him to be “the man” when it mattered most, as had been the case with the Leafs.

While Reimer has never proven himself an All-Star by any means, and has never played a full NHL season as an injury-free “number-one”, I still believe he is a goaltender with a future who could well become a solid netminder on a contending team. This year had to be a challenge for him mentally and certainly in terms of his confidence.  I’ve written here about the train of events that got us to this point, starting with the acquisition of Bernier when it looked as though Reimer had finally established himself as the top guy in Toronto a year ago. When incoming Leaf CEO Tim Leiweke spoke of Reimer as “the guy we inherited”, you knew Reimer was not in the team’s long-term plans.

So here we are:  Reimer is a restricted free-agent, but surely won’t want to spend another season looking at Randy Carlyle from the end of the Leaf bench.  Bernier will play 60 games next season, and justifiably so.  While some Leaf observers like myself will claim the deck was stacked against Reimer from the get-go and that it was an uneven playing field in terms of his supposed competition with Bernier, the former LA King did grab the job and deserves to be the undisputed number-one goaltender next season.

But what about Reimer? 

While some will say the Leafs should keep him as insurance, I think having Bernier and Reimer together for another season would not be good for team harmony.  The Leafs need a number-one and someone who embraces their role as a back-up. That doesn’t mean the back-up can’t aspire to be the top guy, but he can’t be unhappy and thinking he deserves to be in goal ahead of Bernier.

My sense is Reimer does get moved this summer.  The Leafs may not get much, but they didn’t exactly sell high when they had a chance last summer. At the time, Reimer was coming off a pretty strong season and playoff series as a number-one goalie behind a team that had many of the same flaws they exhibited this past season (being out-chanced, etc.) and he had held them in nicely. But they missed the opportunity to cash in.

In any event, I have no idea where he ends up, but it can’t be here.  Winnipeg, maybe?










24 comments:

  1. It wouldn't surprise me if the Leafs got nothing for him. They would need to offer $1.6 Mill to qualify him and they might think that is too steep. They might just let him become an unrestricted free agent, and either promote McIntyre or sign a veteran backup for less money.

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    1. I hadn't thought of that possibility, Stan. They won't likely get much in a trade, so maybe they will consider that.

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  2. I had hoped to see the old Reimer during this tournament and only saw glimpses of what he was at the start of the season. I think another year with Toronto would be really bad for James---(It's the Felix Potvin story all over again.) and not good for those of us who really liked him. This story needs an ending and I hope it turns out to be a happy one for James Reimer.

    There may be some interest in him in Winnipeg or Calgary, but there are quite a few goalies looking for new teams. Toronto also has Antoine Bibeau to add to their three Marlies goalies so someone has to be moved up or out. C.N.

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    1. It would be ideal to see Reimer go somewhere where he will get a chance to shine and regain his confidence, Colleen. I think he can still be a solid goaltender.

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  3. I am going to be the contrarian. I think Reimer should just agree to a short reasonable contract and focus on playing the game.

    In all sorts of business situations, it's all about, "What have you done for me lately?" In many places of places business employees can't justify themselves on two years ago. It's this year and last quarter. Why are we coddling Reimer? He's a professional in a highly competitive game. Other players are faced with just as much adversity and succeed, but we have to worry about Reimer's state of mind?

    Just win...and until you are number one, play the backup role as well a you can.

    Reimer actually has a good opportunity in Toronto. Bernier is not a durable goaltender, so Reimer will get his chances and they will be on a hockey's biggest stage with lots of coaches, G.M.s and scouts watching.

    If he can't do it, he will cement his reputation as not quite a number one...maybe just a backup.

    A short contract, reasonable amount and stellar performances are the kind of thing that will get G.M.s interested.

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    1. I hear you, DP. I'm just not sure it would be the best situation for team chemistry.

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    2. But isn't that "chemistry" issue about Reimer?

      If he accepts the situation (many nights Bernier was playing better) and acts professionally and just tries to win, then there isn't much of a problem.

      If he pouts and glares at the coach, then it's likely to be a problem. It's also likely to make other G.M.s less interested. G.M.s will ask themselves, "What will Reimer do if we get him and one of our prospects starts to emerge in a year or two? Will he pout again? or will he be a classy guy and be a good mentor? Maybe we should pick a UFA like Miller, Hiller, Thomas or Emery?"

      I really think it's in Reimer's best interests to just be a good team guy, be quiet and play to win until he is a UFA, but try to become a UFA as soon as possible.

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    3. I really think Reimer tried to be a good teammate this past season. The one "incident" was not a big deal, in my opinion. For me, going through the same exercise again may be difficult for the team.

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  4. There isn't that many teams really needing a goalie but there are a few out there so its a buyers market.

    The teams I think are looking for goalies:

    San Jose: I think they are looking more for a proven #1
    Vancouver: Same as San Jose
    Winnipeg: This is possible
    Calgary: Probably the best possibility.
    Minnesota: Josh Harding is a great story but a big question mark with his health. Depends on if they think Kuemper is the answer. I would say this is an outside chance.
    Buffalo: I see them going with youth in every position including net.
    Washington: Outside chance as their whole organization is in a state of flux.

    I wish the best for James but I can see him starting the season as the backup in Toronto with perhaps a move happening during the season.

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    1. Winnipeg seems possible, Pep, but as you note, there aren't a lot of teams that need a goalie, and there are questions around Reimer.

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  5. Reimer was the first goalie since Belfour who gave us confidence. I remember the game against Calgary (the week before Gionta elbowed him) and we got down 2-0 early, thinking "It's okay, he'll shut the door now" and he did. Reimer did a lot for the Leafs and Leaf fans but will ultimately go unrewarded. His need for many games played to stay consistent is a big problem. I'll always cheer for him (cause there's no chance he plays for Boston or Montreal) but I fear it's already too late to change the perceptions.

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    1. At his best, Reimer usually gets better as the game goes on, chelch. He had moments like that this past season but by the end was not himself. I'm a Reimer guy, too, but as you say perception seems set.

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  6. Having Shanahan in place makes it harder to guess how this situation plays out. I expected Nonis to just let Reimer walk as he has with other players and bring up MacIntyre. I am hopeful that Shanahan will encourage him to be smarter with his assets. I wouldn't be surprised to see Reimer stay another year if he is asked, if a new contract and the cap can be managed, but it's a mess right now. CN

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  7. I was saddened that Reimer was unable to get much 'run support' during the opening game of the tournament, when none of the players seemed to have developed any chemistry on offense. Of course, the goals he gave up to DaCosta were quality chances and I don't 'blame him' for giving them up.

    I know it seemed like James was being bypassed for the elimination game, yet Tippett seemed to be making a habit of just rotating between the two goalies throughout the tournament... I would only have been convinced that Reimer was being overlooked if he didn't play in the semi-final game (yet that might have been a hard call to make, if Scrivens had shone in the quarter-final). Funny how I haven't seen comments (elsewhere) about Ben's seeming 'failure' to steal that game, though... only the expected derision for the France loss heaped upon Reimer's shoulders. If you can imagine, I even saw one comment lampooning Reimer for the loss in the quarter-finals (it's hard to win a game you didn't play, isn't it?)!! Clearly, some people have a 'hate on' for the young man that has nothing to do with his play...

    I would imagine two scenarios with Reimer going forward. The first would be a trade (package) prior to the draft that would allow the new team to negotiate a contract with James based upon their situation. The second would be to qualify Reimer in order to make a trade after July 1st. I can't imagine just allowing him to walk as a UFA, nor can I see his qualifying offer to be horribly difficult to swallow (even if a failed trade scenario in the offseason meant that he would be in the backup role to start in the fall). He is still a valuable asset (both as a player and as a person).

    I kind of feel like James would do well in a Canadian market like Winnipeg, Calgary or, perhaps Vancouver or Edmonton, yet there may be other teams that are open to change. Wherever, he ends up, I only hope the best for him and his career... Just wish we could have seen him succeed with a greater management and coach-level sense of 'backing'... I suspect we may see the day when he is very hard to play against in our future.

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    1. For all of Reimer's imperfections, the guy battles and cares a great deal. I think he has a good future somewhere. Thanks, InTimeFor62.

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  8. I see Reimer moving on in a "package deal". I also don't see him staying with the club, so Nonis will surely try to get something in return for him. As good a guy as James is (and I don't see reason to think otherwise) it just comes down to hockey. He just isn't good enough to be the no. 1 guy on most teams. We all like him, but that's just the way it is.
    The hard part part comes next. What would the trade be?

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    1. I've seen a lot of goalies who I thought weren't going to be stars become stars, and others who looked like a sure thing not quite pan out, so I'm loathe to say Reimer doesn't have what it takes, portuguese leaf. He's still young. And if his confidence returns, who knows what he may be able to achieve? Dwayne Roloson had a great career, but didn't really come into his own until he was in his 30s.

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  9. Hopefully the Leafs can get something for Reimer as even a 5th round pick can sometimes turn into a valuable asset. The goalie on Val D'Or Bibeau was a 6th round pick and they say he could be a good one and Connor Brown is another 6th round pick and supposedly another Gallagher.

    I have to say I agree Portuguese Leaf that Reimer simply is not good enough. I could be wrong and maybe he turns into a Roloson but Roloson was also a lot older than Reimer when he made the NHL and he seemed to get better with time while Reimer was actually pretty good when he started and gotten worse - the reverse of Roloson. Maybe Reimer can improve his game but I don't want to bet another season on it. I have also heard that teams spend hours on end studying video on opposition goalies and by now they know exactly how to score on Reimer. Last week Darren Pang said the real reason the Habs went with Tokarski over Budaj was because of video available on Budaj and no video on Tokarski and it simply coming own to the odds of scoring where they know how to play a goalie.

    Tim Thomas came into the league at 31 and did pretty good for himself, maybe the Leafs should give Drew MacIntyre a shot as he is also just turning 31 and s playing really well on the Marlies.



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    1. MacIntyre has certainly played well for the Marlies, Alton, and could well be in a position to challenge for the back-up job next fall.

      Many felt Steve Mason was regressing at the end of his time in Columbus, but he had a very strong season in Philly this past year. Reimer may rebound.

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  10. Generally, I'm not all that interested in the World Championships, especially in an Olympic year. I do give kudos to those players who are willing to play for their country, maybe if it's only because it's a once in a lifetime chance to represent their country. Despite my lack of enthusiasm for the tourney as a whole, I like knowing that some of our younger players are gaining the experience playing in a competitive tournament.

    For Reimer particularly, I've said before his time here is done, he needs a change of scenery. The Leafs undoubtedly need insurance, and if not for the head games that have been played with him during his stint here, Reimer would be good insurance. It just seems time that he go somewhere else and be that guy, maybe even have a chance to start, and we get a different backup. I have been watching McIntyre in the AHL playoffs and he looks pretty good, but I also think he's resigned to being a really good minor league goalie. Sparks has a lot of promise but he's not ready yet.

    I just don't want for the Leafs to take the next step, playoffs, gain some success, and then turn out like the Habs, with Price hurt and no NHL caliber backup. They do have Dubnyk buried in the minors for some reason, I find it hard to understand how he's fallen off the radar so far. But he is an example of the kind of experienced NHL goalie who could be had for cheap should the Leafs look for one.

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    1. I'm in the "change of scenery" camp, too, Pete. I just don't see another solution, though I've reviewed all the differing views here with interest.

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  11. As you well know Michael, I don't like James Reimer as a person - I don't like his 'good Christian boy' attitude, I don't like his fake smile and I very much did not like his eye-roll when he was pulled in that Detroit game. I don't care about his feelings and I don't think he's earned the starter's job in Toronto.

    But I do like him as a goalie and I do appreciate what he did for the club that one year when we made it into the payoffs and I do think that he has 'what it takes' to be a no. 1 goalie in the NHL and I do believe that he is indeed only that one save percentage point worse than Bernier - in other words he's no better or worse than Bernier right now.

    In an ideal word he'd be in Winnipeg next season and we'd be getting Kane or Bufyglin back but that's not gonna happen because Reimer just hasn't played well enough and for long enough to garner that kind of return. It just makes so much more sense for the organisation to keep him as an RFA and try the 1a, 1b thing again. I hope that Reimer is willing to play this time and accept the fact that he hasn't proven anything yet and that the team is more important than his ego.

    I guess everything depends on the conversations that are going on between him and the coaching staff and management as we're speaking. If he's insisting on a trade then I guess a best possible trade route should be found, but having two good goalies is a major advantage in today's NHL and Bernier and Reimer battling it out for another season is probably the best case scenario right now.

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    1. Some fans (like myself) really like Reimer on a personal level and I'm sure others don't, leafdreamer. The real challenge for the club is determining if another season with him as a back-up is workable. I don't think it is but I agree, he won't likely draw much in a trade.

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  12. Hi Michael,

    the Leafs treated Rreimer very bad. As they did with some other young players in the last few years.

    Another season with him as a backup is not possible, and I agree with you it would be difficult for the team if they keep him.

    But it is very bad, no one knows how Bernier will be in the near future and having a second number one for a reasonable price would be a big advantage.

    They owe Reimer to trade him to a team that wants him. Burke has a real history with players he had in the past. I wish him all the best.

    MacIntyre is not a good option as a backup. He can stop a puck, but we do not know enough about Bernier to completely trust him. The Leafs have to provide him with a backup that can play and possibly win 30 to 40 games.


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