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Can William Nylander make the jump like a certain small, speedy Maple Leaf center did years ago?

The one Leaf-related hockey image that keeps coming back to me in recent days with the exhibition schedule suddenly in full swing has to do with young William Nylander.

I don’t have to remind Leaf supporters that for seemingly the first time in quite a while, the Leafs drafted, this past summer, a forward with what appear to be off-the-chart skills. The young man can fly, has vision and makes plays.  While I’m not a fan of most 18 year-olds jumping to the NHL (essentially never for defensemen, rarely for forwards), I’m prepared to temporarily suspend my concerns if this young man really and truly turns heads at camp.

I post this commentary before the scheduled game on Tuesday night against the Flyers. Nylander is expected to make his first appearance in a Leaf uniform. And while I hardly believe that performance in a pre-season game is a prelude to what may occur during the regular season, I’m sure all eyes will be on the young Swedish Canadian—whose father was a solid, longtime NHL player.

We know he won’t play on the third or fourth line, so if he were to make the team, he would have to play real minutes (likely including the power play) on one of the top lines, with a good supporting cast who can take advantage of his skills.

While I admit I don’t think pre-season play—either for an individual or a team—is necessarily a harbinger of things to come, I acknowledge that I have long been aware of some Leaf history that took place many years ago that makes the Nylander  situation worth following.

I was all of seven years old when, back during September of 1960, the Leafs went out on a West Coast exhibition trip under then General Manager and Coach Punch Imlach. They played, if memory serves, two or three games in the western United States in some of the cities that were part of the old Western Hockey League.  (Could have been Los Angeles and Oakland, I’m not sure.) The Leafs were building what would become a formidable squad, with veterans like Red Kelly, Johnny Bower, George Armstrong, Tim Horton and Allan Stanley. But they also had a tier of youngish, up and coming stars like Billy Harris, Frank Mahovlich, Bob Pulford, Dickie Duff, Bobby Baun and Carl Brewer.

During training camp before the ’60-’61 season, the Leafs already had three good, experienced centers: Kelly, Pulford and Harris. But lo and behold, out of the blue came a 20 year old straight out of junior hockey.  Like Nylander today, this young Maple Leaf hopeful, also a center, was small but lightning fast. His name was Dave Keon.

Keon (right) had played well for St. Mike’s in Junior hockey in the then Maple Leaf “farm” system, but was expected to spend his first year as a pro in the minor leagues.  However, he so impressed Imlach during that Western exhibition road swing that the crusty coach felt he had to find a place on the team for Keon.  Keon was thought to be too small to play in a league with heavy hitters like Bruin tough guy Leo Boivin and Chicago defensemen “Moose” Vasko and Dollard St. Laurent—to name but a few of the fierce, old-school defenders of that era.

Yet Keon not only survived by quickness and guile, he became the Rookie-of-the-Year in the NHL. Ultimately, he also became one of the backbone players of those Leaf championship teams of the 1960s before becoming the team captain for six seasons. In my mind, he was one of the best, if not the best, all-around players/player in the NHL throughout the early to mid 1960s.

Keon maybe weighed 160 pounds at the beginning of his career, small even for the time.  He was all of 5 foot 9, if I recall correctly.

For his part, I believe I read that Nylander is closer to 6 feet, but weighs less than 170 pounds. He will get bigger.

But as Keon (and others before and after him) proved, does size really matter, if you have the skill, smarts—and heart—to play in the best league in the world?

I guess we’ll see in the days ahead if Nylander is ready for that big jump, or whether it would be best for the team and for his development if he spent another year back in the top Swedish League or maybe in the AHL with the Marlies.


But even the skeptics, like myself, should keep in mind that surprises can indeed happen at training camp, after all. And there is a Leaf Hall-of-Famer to prove it.

28 comments:

  1. I saw the rookie game that Nylander played a few days ago, and he did 'stand out' while missing some chances that few others might have even had a chance to try. That said, it was clear that only one game was needed to confirm his place on the main pre-season squad. William demonstrated significant savvy in his defensive responsibilities and actually made me think of Keon when he stripped the puck from others.

    I imagine we will see if he can make it into the top 2 lines, but if not soon, I'm sure we will see him by next year since he's been exposed to the NHL and a men's league in Sweden, I expect he has a better idea what will be expected of him than most his age.

    This is the kind of player I would like to see being offered the number of a Leaf legend (as I previously suggested). What an honour if Dave Keon were to do that for a budding young Leaf whenever he makes the squad.

    I'm looking for how well he adjusts as the quality of opposition increases throughout the pre-season. Thanks for sharing your early Keon memories - I was just a twinkle in my Dad's eye at that point! Sure would be nice to have another rookie of the year on our team!

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    1. Nylander wearing #14- interesting, InTimeFor62. I do wish, in the absence of the Leafs retiring numbers, that they would consider your idea of having the Leaf who previously wore the number in question 'pass' the number on to a deserving player.

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    2. In the meantime, I certainly don't mind him wearing 62 :)

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    3. Robidas said something intersting about Jersey numbers at media day. Henny asked him what number he has and he said: I couldn't take the 3 because Dion has it. I couldn't take the seven because of Horten, the 17 because of Clark and Lupul has the 19.

      So there are "retired" numbers.

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  2. I just missed seeing Keon play myself, or was too young to remember so I can't real compare them. In regards to Nylander if he can play find a place for him. Look all over the league and you can see 18 year olds playing and making a contribution. This is a young mans league and its getting younger every year. My feelings are similar to yours Michael in that 18 year olds should rarely make the NHL but every case is unique and should be judged on its own merits. Teams can not or at least should not be making blanket statements that 18 year olds will never play. I know everyone holds up the Red Wings as the model organization but there is a difference. The Wings rarely if ever had high draft picks, all of them are late, late first rounders or later. In fact the Red Wings (for all the bitching and moaning Leaf fans do) are the team that has traded the most first round picks over the last decade and a half or so. Its pretty easy to send projects back to the minors when in reality none of them are ready to play in the NHL anyways. My feeling is if the Leafs think that Nylander can play and help them now then play him. My only caveat is if they keep him then play him, live with his inevitable mistakes and let him keep playing.

    I'm not sure Carlyle will do that. With his back to the wall and his fondness for veteran players I think he will go down swinging and revert to his old ways. We will see the first line 23 minutes a night and be subjected to a Komarov line playing 18 minutes or more.

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  3. I think we'll all be waiting to see how Carlyle deploys his roster this season, Willbur. If Nylander is here, then he needs to play. We can expect there will be ups and downs.

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  4. Davey Keon was my hockey hero growing up. I was young but caught the end of his career. One of two Leaf sweaters hanging in my closest is a '72 version with Keon on the back and a C on the top left. It is great to see him around the club a bit again. That should have happened years ago.

    William Nylander. Great talent. Almost to a man when asked about him the Leafs players have said "great hands". And you can see that in the clips from the camp and early pre-season. But he is still in a kids body. He has the mind to pick up the NHL game quick enough but I really think a years seasoning in the AHL or even another year in the Swedish Elite league would do him a world of good.

    Once the season starts he is going to get knocked around..a lot. The Oilers rushed Nugent-Hopkins into the NHL, being first overall I guess, and they are paying for it. He is only this year getting over shoulder injuries he has fought for 3 years that happened mainly because he was not ready physically for the NHL.

    The game was different back in the day Michael. Yeah, there were bruisers and lots of toughness but the game is SO much faster than it was even 15 years ago never mind 40. It isn't worth the risk if the kid is not ready physically and I have a hard time believing he is.

    As good as he is rushing him would be the worst thing they could do in my opinion.

    PS: I would love him to wear #14!!

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    1. You raise very fair points about rushing young players, Pep. (Didn't the Sabres do that with their first round pick a year or two ago. They kept him past his 9-game trial and eventually ended up sending him back to Junior?) The Leafs have had issues rushing players before, though usually it's been defensemen over the years.

      Kadri was on a yo-yo for too long, in my view, when he should have been learning the pro game full-time under Eakins with the Marlies.

      So we'll see. I raised Nylander because it's an option the Leafs seem to be considering. And I recognize that, yes, the game was different back in the early '60s. It's so fast now. Thanks Pep.

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  5. i'm not sure if the stats back me up, but you'd think a guy of nylander's proportions might be a little bit more injury-proned... i know as a guy around dave keon's build (except i'm 5"11), i certainly couldn't withstand a bone-crunching hit from any nhl player, much less one of the bigger guys. perhaps this year, regardless of nylander's talent, he should play in the AHL while bulking up (extra insulation and strength if you will!). cheers michael!

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    1. I, too, Alex, have concerns about pushing a young, small player too soon- regardless of how talented he is. It can't just be about today: what's best for him in the long term?

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  6. Hi Michael,

    do not rush him if he is not ready.

    Inspite of all his talent and that he looks, in some areas of the game, like an NHL Player.

    I think it would help more if he plays another year in Sweden. And then we will see where we're at.

    In 2013 the Sabers kept Grigorenko for 22 games and he wasn't nearly ready and then they sent him back to Junior.
    But the other high profile forwards of this draft were kept pretty early and they have their problems , Yakupoy and Galchenyuk.

    No size does not matter. The size, size, size mantra of the Burke era really got on my nerves (look where it got us).
    But you have to be physically ready and I do not know if he is.

    If you are smaller you have other problems with bigger players. I am 5.8 ft myself and when I play bigger guys their shoulders or ellbows are very easily on the hight of my head.


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    1. Hi Marcus- when all is said and done, my thought is Nylander gets another year of pre-NHL development. But if he is 'out of this world' at camp, I guess the organization will consider a spot for him. There seem to be a lot of risks in rushing him along- including injuries.

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  7. He's only just turned 18 and is so lightly built that a serious injury is my concern too. The stronger neck muscles come with time only and there's not a thing he can do about it. Like Kessel, he's illusive and hard to hit cleanly but is already discovering, I'm sure, that it's harder to do on an NHL size rink.
    The NHL is getting younger for sure and I think we are nearing the time where we will see more young players making the move up. If he was heavier, I'd have less doubts ( and some lighter players like Tucker could take quite a beating and get right back up) but, much as I'd love to see him, the Leafs have a lot of issues to work out this year and won't be serious contenders. I 'm not sure the possible gain to the team or his own development would be worth the risk.

    *Not to say I wouldn't be excited for him if he makes it! Colleen

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    1. I think we all look forward to seeing Nylander here some day, maybe even as a top line centre, Colleen. As gifted as he is, he's not like a Darryl Sittler, another 8th overall choice, I believe, though that was back in 1970- and Sittler was two years older when he made the Leafs.

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  8. Thank you for another great story Michael. I'm way too young to remember Keon - the first Leafs I remember watching were the team led by another small-ish guy Doug Gilmour and I don't remember anyone ever seeing issues with his size - had another small guy's ('the great one') high-sticking been called we may well be now talking about that 'Cup run' now...

    There's nothing wrong with small-bodied guys playing in the NHL. But they need to be protected and they need to know how to protect themselves. I don't think it is within Carlyle's power right now to make that happen on the Leafs this year. I think he has 'the orders from above' to not field players who are able to retaliate in case someone tries to run the kids. What he ends up doing is really going to be interesting this time around - I think he'll probably send the kid back down. Personally I think having him play in the Marlies on a line with Broll or one of the other goons may be best for him right now. If he ends up lighting it up, and he may well do so, then maybe he should be brought up for a few games.

    He is definitely a special player - looks a lot like Kessel in fact - and I'm very glad it wasn't me picking at the draft because I probably would have gone for Nick Richie over him. The roster is full of good players this year and there is no need to gamble on Nylander just yet. I think he should play for the Marlies this year. He will be in a perfect position to succeed there - he is exactly what Marlies have been missing in the last few years - a special, super-skilled scoring player - a Calder Cup run to get the kid ready for the big league sounds like a great idea to me. I think next year, when all these one-year contracts have expired and only the best survive there will be more room for Nylander and co. to step in and become NHLers.

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    1. Good to hear your thoughts, leafdreamer. Ideally, the Leafs won't feel the need to push Nylander. It would be good to know we have an elite prospect in the pipeline, developing properly without being rushed.

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    2. Absolutely agree! The Marlies have started a tradition of winning and going deep in the playoffs. Let's continue that winning culture and add a top end scorer (Nylander) to an already good team. Play him on a line with Biggs and Leivo, Biggs I'm sure will do a great job protecting Nylander and with he (Biggs) finally seeming healtly could do wonders for his confidence in the scoring department. We all want him to play with the Leafs, but let him grow a little, win a Calder cup with the Marlies and be Playoff MVP! Then play next year bring him up to hopefully a playoff team needing that last piece to finish the puzzle.

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  9. In the 1959-60 the Leafs faced a similar problem to that of today. They lacked quality at the centre position with the exception of Bob Pulford and a razor thin Billy (Hinky) Harris (listed at 6 feet and 150 pounds). Imlach used Ted Hampson, Larry Reagan, Dave Creighton and even Rudy Migay between Duff and Armstrong with little effectiveness. It was not until 52 games into the season that Red Kelly was acquired.

    Imlach was not comfortable with his 3 starting centres going into the 60-61 season. I always felt that he did not value Harris (too frail physically and not strong defensively). Keon was that two way center that he was looking for and even as a rookie he slotted nicely between Duff and Armstrong.

    I am sure Carlyle would love a player of Keon's ilk to solve his centre problems. Maybe he has one in Nylander.

    Nylander is not the atypical 18 year old draftee. He grew up in an NHL atmosphere and understands, through his experiences during his father's career, what it takes to play in the NHL. He has also had a taste of pro hockey and thus playing against men. I don't worry about the mental aspect of the game with Nylander.

    I am usually not an advocate of playing 18 year olds but I believe Nylander is ready mentally. If he is physically capable then I see no reason not to play him. He could very well be the answer to that number one centre question that the pundits have been harping on ad nauseum since Sundin.

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    1. As a young Leaf fan in the early '60s, Billy Harris always seemed like a really skilled centre, but maybe as you suggest Imlach was hesitant to utilize him on a regular basis, Pete Cam.

      It's ironic, in a way, that we haven't had the top line centre like Sundin for years- and Leaf fans complained that he often had no one similarly skilled to play with. Now we seem to feel the same way about Kessel!

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  10. After the things I have seen there is no chance he stays with the Leafs.
    Some people talk about the nine games but there s no benefit in that.
    Send him back to Sweden. It is a good Environment to grow.
    He is a kid he is not a man. It is to much to Play in the NHL for him.

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    1. Cant he play 9 NHL games before he either has to stay or go down? Or what about the Marlies... seems like playing in NHL arenas may be better for him, as by the sounds of it he may be ready next year?

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    2. Hi Marcus and Leafs Fan.
      I suppose it depends it depends how physically ready they feel he is. Maybe they'll do the nine games if they still haven't made a decision. I expect he'll go to the Marlies if they think he's close or back to Sweden if he needs a good year yet to grow. Honestly, he still looks like a boy to me, Keon, at the same age and size, didn't. I've read that in some parts of Sweden, boys are still growing well into their twenties. It's nice, either way to have such a promising youngster in the system.

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    3. Colleen you are right, but he is not physically ready now. And he will need one or two years.

      Yes Leafs fan you can play nine games in the NHL before the entry level deal kicks in but in his case it makes no sense. I am as excited as anyone about him but we have to be careful. It is to early. Staying in Sweden is the best option. The season in Swededn is over when the AHL playoffs start.

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    4. Marcus, has Josh Lievo impressed you as much as he has me? He doesn't lose many puck battles, especially behind the net, and seemed to really enjoy playing with Bozak and Lupul. I'm wondering who has impressed everyone most so far this preseason.
      Felt so bad for Tallinder--may have been his last chance to play and thought he may have had the 7th D position. Holzer?

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    5. Oh yes he has! But it won't hurt to give him another year. But it is good to know that there is someone who really can play if the injury bug strikes as heavy again.

      The Tallinder case is unfortunate, I would take Holzer as the 7th D. Give Granberg and Percy heavy minutes in the AHL.

      I like some of the veterans. Leo, Winnik and Polak will really help.

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  11. For those interested, PPP has a poll by Fanpost --Whose the best American player? --with neither Kessel or JVR mentioned. ( Arguably the best U.S.players in the Olympics) If you scroll down a link to still vote is provided--you have to vote "other".

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  12. Hi Michael.
    Just wanted to say that while he may not be physically ready to make the jump, he certainly looks like he will be a special player. I had the the pleasure of seeing him in the rookie tournament and he just looks like a star. He does things on the ice that only a star player would attempt. After that first rookie tournament game you just knew that there was no more reason for him to play at that level - he was so far ahead of his teammates. Really looking forward to his arrival.

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    1. Seeing a guy in person usually gives us a bit better sense of what he can do, apollo678. I don't know what management is thinking but it's a question of when, not if, he plays here.

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